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To Snoop Or Not
06.23.06 (7:55 pm)   [edit]
Analysis: CIA program expands Bush's power

By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer 

WASHINGTON - A secret CIA-Treasury program to track financial records of 
millions of Americans is the latest installment in an expansion of executive 
authority in the name of fighting terrorism. The administration doesn't apologize 
for President Bush's aggressive take on presidential powers. Vice President 
Dick Cheney even boasts about it.

Bush has made broad use of his powers, authorizing warrantless wiretaps, 
possibly collecting telephone records on millions of Americans, holding 
suspected terrorists overseas without legal protections and using up to 6,000 
National Guard members to help patrol the border with Mexico.

That's in addition to the vast anti-terrorism powers Congress granted him in the 
recently extended Patriot Act.

Civil liberties activists, joined by congressional Democrats and some members 
of Bush's own party, suggest the president has pushed the envelope too far 
— usurping authority from Congress and abusing individual privacy rights in the 
process.

So far, the administration has been unapologetic.
The question is whether all this snooping and privacy invasion has been truly effective against terrorism. The Government say, of course, that is has but refuses to give any examples.

But what we're really talking about here is data mining and I have two article links that may give some insight as to the effectiveness of the overnments snooping. The first article is called TIAin't and it examines some problems and fallacies of "data mining for terrorists". The second article Using Data Mining to Find Terrorists expands on the first article and shows some likely pitfalls faced by the miners.

In short, you must ask yourself whether it is worth giving up so much of your privacy and freedoms for what has be called a theoretical direction of attack against terrorists. Considering the Government refuses to give explicit examples of ANY terrorist caught by either phone tapping or money tracing, we must question the efficacy of such policies as well as the true intention of the Government

This we do know about our Government. It is corrupt beyond measure. Why they should expect us to believe anything they say or do is beyond fathom. That Bushs' approval rating is rock bottom is no surprise. We need a change for the better. We, and the rest of the World, deserve a change for the better.

 


posted by: red*ranger (reply)
post date: 06.24.06 (3:23 am)

---what do you mean bush's corrupt policy? isn't it our rights to have taken counter-act*procedure against terrorism by ant means? the enemies didn't give us the choice to live in a society that is free...they took that Liberty from us!!!



posted by: littlemrmahatma (reply)
post date: 06.24.06 (6:40 pm)

So explain to me exactly where Iraq fits in to 9/11? There's is and was no - make that, *NO* - conenction between the two. Iraq posed no, NO, *NO* threat to us in any way shape or form. Saudi Arabia was and is a known sponsor of terrorism. Iran was and is a known sponsor. North Korea poses a bigger threat with WMDs than Iraq ever did.

(And, by the way, guess who supplied Iraq with all those yummy chemical weapons way back when? Reagan!)

Our enemies have taken nothing from us. Our Government is the one who has suspended liberties because they're the ones who make and enforce policy. And the choices we have dwindle every time another corrupt Administration takes over. Bush happens to be the latest and worst in a long line.



posted by: therealspartacus007 (reply)
post date: 06.24.06 (9:06 pm)

I think that they should snoop, but they should only snoop on suspects, not innocent Americans. We have a well established body of law to guide the government, but if they keep it secret, they can ignore the law.



posted by: littlemrmahatma (reply)
post date: 06.25.06 (5:25 pm)

If you have a suspect first then you can follow a trail. But here the Government is trying to mine this insane amount of data looking for suspects. The problem is that they are more likely to find false-positives, that is, people who are innocent but pass their filters of guilt. With the way the Bush Admins run things they could grab these poor people without warrant and hold them indefinitely without telling them why or giving them any recourse to follow. It's called Big Brother 22 years later.

Read the links for a much clearer explanation of the problems of data mining for terrorists.



posted by: arhiderrr (reply)
post date: 02.28.09 (4:54 am)

Nice article



posted by: arhiderrr (reply)
post date: 02.28.09 (12:46 pm)

Nice article



posted by: arhiderrr (reply)
post date: 02.28.09 (9:38 pm)

Nice article



posted by: arhiderrr (reply)
post date: 03.01.09 (5:29 am)

Nice article



posted by: arhiderrr (reply)
post date: 03.01.09 (1:23 pm)

Nice article

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