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Los Angeles Seal and Cross
06.09.04 (2:05 pm)   [edit]
The ACLU has threatened to sue the City of LA on grounds of Church-State violations if the city doesn't remove a cross from the city seal. The city while willing to make the changes - if anything to avoid the lawsuit - claims the cost is prohibitive and their decision looks like it will be based on cost not on what's right. Meanwhile outside city hall, not surprisingly, right-wingers protest the suit claiming the cross has historical significance similar to that of the roman goddess Pomona who also appears on the seal. For them the issue is apparently based on tradition ("It's always been there") not on the law.


Comparing the cross to the figure of Pomona is faulty in that while both are religious figures very few people know of Pomona while the cross is a recognized icon which has a current significance. The cross is still used by a very active religion whereas Pomona is gone, a figure from a past belief system. Or to put it another way Los Angeles has a tremendous Jewish history, would people get upset if the seal had a Star of David on it but not a cross? You bet! They'd be demanding the removal of the Star or an equal opportunity for the cross. And to be fair if one religion gets their icon allowed then others should be allowed as well since LA has a history that spans cultures and religions.


The argument that the cross is historical and represents the Missions is counter-argued that the Missions themselves represent the destruction of a native people and further counter-argued that Pomona therefore holds little historical value other than the name. We have no missions or temples to Pomona in our history!


I agree with ACLU that this is a violation of Church and State, and I agree with the city that the cost will be enormous to make the necessary changes. A solution would be to phase in the changes and spread the cost over several years. Both the ACLU and the city should find comfort in that. Heck, the city could probably make a buck by selling the old seals. I would also suggest that to make the seal look nice simply move one of the two nearby stars over to where the cross was - making the Hollywood Bowl icon look like it's truly under the stars.

 


posted by: therealspartacus007 (reply)
post date: 06.10.04 (5:38 am)

I agree with you. I'm an atheist member of the ACLU. There are a few other cities in California that have a rosary on their seal, but because it is not easily identifiable as a religious object, the ACLU has not pursued any action against them.

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