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The Other Terrorists
09.16.04 (9:59 am)   [edit]
While Bush keeps crowing about how successful he is at fighting terrorists, I guess, of the Islamic kind only I wondered what Bush planned to do about the Other Terrorists, namely gangs. Here, with the demise of the law against automatic weapons, comes an additional burden for the Police to protect us from terrorists and better-armed gangs. Good luck.


"Oh, but Mahatma, gangs aren't terrorists..."


Let's see, they kill innocent people spreading terror, disrupting a calm fabric of life. Sure, they're not politically motivated, but they still cause death and disruption. Thanks to Bush it'll be easier for them to get better weaponry because it's easier for us (non-gang) types to get better weaponry. How many people secure their firearms at home? How many firearms get stolen each year?


Do I feel safer knowing I can go out and get an assault weapon? No. And I don't like Bush and his cronies telling us that essentially violence is acceptable, necessary, and a daily part of our existence. I don't care that war and violence are good business for him and his cronies. If he wants to peddle pain and power and play soldier then do so on his ranch.


And I'm getting fed up waiting for Kerry to attack. Bush's strong point - terrorism - is his weakest point. Nail him on that and there's nothing left. Come on, Kerry, show some cajones. You're the Vet. Don't take my vote for granted just because you're not Bush.

 


posted by: stepdad (reply)
post date: 09.16.04 (10:21 am)

Lol... ok, do you guys check facts or do you just repeat anything you read over at moveon.org?

The ban on automatic weapons has never expired. The National Firearms Act was passed in 1934 and is still in effect today. Legal ownership of a machine gun requires an extensive federal background check, fingerprinting, signed clearance from the chief of local law enforcement (such as a county sheriff), a $200 excise tax , and weeks of paperwork. That was true before the assault-weapon ban was enacted in 1994, and it remains true with the expiration of the ban at midnight Sept. 13, 2004.

The ban that expired was a ban on some specific rifles that are all semi-automatic, none of them are fully automatic. You might also note that Bush has little to nothing to do with this ban, it was up to congress to extend this and they chose not too. So if anyone is to blame here it would be someone in Congress, say like a Senator or two, who never bothered to make this an issue or try and save the ban before it expired, and are now trying to score political points for it.




posted by: DrForbush (reply)
post date: 09.16.04 (11:22 am)

Reply to: stepdad

Anti - Gun Groups and Anti-Abortion Groups are the two groups that continue to pass laws and repeal laws to crawl slowly to their goals. Guns kill people and the anti-gun groups will never be satisfied until all of the guns are off the street. Likewise Abortion kills fetuses and people will not be satisfied until all abortion is illegal.

In reality this is never going to happen for either group, but they will continue to push to their goals.

Outlawing and abortion practice or outlawing a few different types of guns is what these groups live for. However, I believe the government shouldn't be involved in either of these things.





posted by: stepdad (reply)
post date: 09.16.04 (12:29 pm)

Reply to: DrForbush

Doc, a gun has never killed anyone. The person using the gun does. A gun is a tool, nothing more. A lot more people in this country are killed every year by automobiles than they are by guns, but you don't see anyone trying to ban Honda's. I can use a hammer to kill people, if I wish, but you don’t see anyone trying to outlaw hammers.

"However, I believe the government shouldn't be involved in either of these things. "

But you missed a major difference between these issues. In the case of guns it is your Constitutional right to keep an bear arms, whether you choose to or not. As long as you do not use this gun in an inappropriate fashion other peoples rights are not at all affected by your ownership of a gun.

However it the case of abortion there are two people involved, the mother and the fetus. Both are human beings and both should have rights, but only one does. The mothers right to privacy, while inferred in the constitution, cannot be held more sacrosanct than the childs right to live, or not to be denied life without due process of law.

This makes the two issues widely divergent to say the least.






posted by: DrForbush (reply)
post date: 09.16.04 (12:44 pm)

Reply to: stepdad

You wrote:
"Doc, a gun has never killed anyone. " And this same arguement would go for nuclear weapons as well. However, we invaded another country because we thought that they had these dangerous weapons.

I am not advocating that people should be allowed to own nuclear weapons, but I am pointing out the flaw in your argument.

Also, not all people agree that a fetus is equal to a human being. Just because this is your belief does not make it true. The fetus can only survive because of the mother, and the mother currently has the right to terminate the fetus if she wants. That is currently her right, just like it is currently your right to own a gun if you choose. Those laws are only laws and can be changed if 67% of the people agree to change them.


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